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The Importance of the 5-Fold in the Church!!!

August 7-13, 2005

 5-fold ministry in the Church 

God speaking: It’s the 5-fold that are to determine the spiritual matters of a church. I didn’t want these people to get bogged down with the normal everyday operations of a church, so I had them appoint committees and others to handle those kind of functions.

No, elders are not to determine spiritual matters. That is not their role.

I appoint and anoint my spiritual leaders of a church.

That is not the way that the world has been doing it, but that is what should have been happening.

In the ideal situation, the 5-fold will determine spiritual matters.

Not too many churches operate with the 5-fold ministry; therefore, what has happened to my church is not what is supposed to have happened.

There has been a restoration of the 5-fold ministry in limited cases in my church. This too has been in error, because man has been appointing himself.

These are offices, and I give the offices.

You cannot attend a school to become an apostle or a prophet or hold any of the offices.

Those positions are commissioned by me, and you receive your anointing from me.

Yes, I will use a human vessel to actually perform the ceremony, but they will receive their orders from me and not through man.

I am restoring the 5-fold ministry to my end-time army. As you noticed, I am choosing the leaders of this ministry and also the other parts of my army.

I called you, Rose. I am the one who will take you to the next level.

There is a lot of misunderstanding in my church as to what I really mean.

Yes, man is concerned about restoring the 5-fold ministry but is now doing it his way instead of my way.

God is going to clean up his church first

First, I am going to clean up my church and get the pollution out of a good percentage of it. Then I will tell it how I want things done.

Because most of my end-time army will be led by new ministries that will soon be birthed, I can start from scratch and not have to clean them up before I start to pour into them what I want.

I am starting with a pure and empty vessel that I can pour in what I choose to do.

I am talking about the leaders now and not the average foot soldier.

The purpose of elders and the 5-fold ministry

Your original question was about the elders. What I told you is my original intent.

If my leaders are not doing things the way that I want them done, then it is good to have a check and balance system worked in, like you do with your Federal government.

They each have their separate departments, but do act as a check and balance so not one of them gains too much authority and becomes a little dictator.

That is one of the purposes of the 5-fold.

This is not a hierarchy, but all working together side-by-side and making decisions as a unit.

They are all equal in my eyes and one is not more important than another. They are to work as a unit.

No, the apostle is not to act as a little king with his kingdom. That is what I am trying to avoid with the 5-fold.

You have 5 different departments, so to speak, working together as one unit. I don’t want any kings to emerge out of these groups.

Yes, Peter rose as spokesman. You too will have a spokesman, but that is all that position entails. It’s simply a job to speak for the group.

Man too many times takes what I say and twists the words to fit his own desires and longings. I know the hearts of man, and it is evil to a point.

The Holiest of Holies

Nobody is totally immune from the influence of Satan unless you are in the Holiest of Holies and in my direct presence. Then I have a special barrier around you to protect you.

Does that mean that you can be perfect? Of course not, but your sins are small and your heart is right or you would not be allowed to enter.

There are very few people who actually make it into this area because of their sins.

Service and big ministry will not get you here.

A personal relationship with me is one requirement. I will expect more of you, pertaining to holiness and obedience, than I will of those in the outer courts.

This is a place where you are to seek me above everything else and a place to strive for perfection. You can never attain it, but I see your heart and if you are truly trying.

There will be no earthly kings in this special place. I’m talking about positions in my body now and not the secular world.

The prideful will not enter here.

Christ is the head of his army and will tell the leaders what He wants

There are very few apostles in the world today.

I will soon call many forth in the years ahead to become leaders in my army. My army will be a pattern on how I want my body to operate.

Man has taken my Word and twisted it in too many cases. I don’t like that one bit.

I will soon let you know exactly what I want and how you are to do it.

God's army will operate within the guidelines of the 5-fold ministry

WFC and all ministries within my end-time army need to be working within the guidelines of a 5-fold ministry, but it will not be what man has come up with, but with what I tell man that I want.

I alone am God and don’t like it when man tries to set himself up as a little god.

I alone am God. I will tell you what I want in the days to come and will explain some of these things more.

Not all so-called Apostles are true Apostles of God who hold the Office

Some of you who write books and have become apostles are on the right track. A few of you have truly been chosen by me, but too many of you have not been.

If you are attaching the title of Apostle to your name, and you are not truly chosen and anointed by me, then eliminate that title immediately.

I don’t want many of you polluting the precious name of a true Apostle.

Many will be coming forth in, the years to come, as we continue to bring in the harvest.

Many of you are taking that title and you are only a pastor of a local church. What qualifies you to be called an Apostle? How ludicrous!

Too many of you are too concerned about what title is attached to your name.

Humble yourselves. I hate pride and love humility. I’m not talking about lip service humility, but true humility that comes from the heart.

Pertaining to elders of a small church

You still don’t have a clear understanding of the purpose of the elders in that little church that you were talking about.

What you said is fine, but it is also ok for them to act as a limited check and balance against the pastor, because there is not the 5-fold active in that church.

Yes, they should allow the prophetic to come forth. That is one of the 5-fold and should not be squelched.

That is where these elders are in error. They should not, however, assume more authority over spiritual matters than they are to have.

My Son is the head of his church and speaks to his leaders through our Spirit. That is where spiritual decisions should be made.

There are churches, however, whose pastor does not do things my way and does not follow the leadings of my Spirit.

Then it is ok for the elders to have an input. What usually happens is that the elders are also in error, and it’s usually because of the traditions of man or because of their personal ignorance on these matters.

Then we have a mess. Then nobody is obeying me and what I want.

There is a restructuring of the church coming

My church is in a mess, for the most part,  and I will soon do something about it.

Yes, there is a restructuring of my church coming and soon now.

The first shall be last and the last first can apply to many of these situations.

I will bless those who see their errors and turn around and start to do things my way.

I will also walk away from those who refuse to give up their little kingdoms or refuse correction. If I walk away, then the enemy is there to do his thing.

I am doing this out of love.

Too many of my children will end up in hell because the leaders of my church are not doing their job properly.

If you want the paycheck, then earn it.

Souls and then equipping these children for the work of my Kingdom should be your main two priorities, and they are not in most cases.

You are too concerned about your individual goals, in many cases, and are not doing enough for my children whom I have put in your care. That will change soon.

There are some exciting times coming to my church. Many will join this next move and will be truly blessed.

Others will resist it, like they have resisted every new move that I bring forth.

Church as usual will soon be over

This has been a step-by-step process in restoring my church.

I have been allowing man to do it for the most part, but I can no longer wait.

My church has turned direction now and is going the ways of the world more every day. I must put a stop to that and immediately.

I will tell you what I want and I will expect my leaders to obey me.

Many of you will come tumbling down in the near future.

Look for a restructuring of my church. Church as usual will soon be over. That is a promise.

When I discipline, it is out of love. Don’t push it, however.

You don’t want to go beyond my discipline and into my wrath. That is not a good place to be.

Obey me!

Love me!

Love one another!

Live holy lives!

How much simpler can I make this?

God is our spiritual Father

I’m speaking to you like a parent now. That is what I am.

I am your spiritual Father, your universal Daddy, so to speak.

I am a loving Father and want to be consulted on spiritual matters and major things in your life. I don’t control your life.

When it comes to your assignment, then that is a different matter. You could liken it to a boss and employee. The employer will tell you what to do, and for your services you will receive a paycheck.

In the case of my army and my church, I am the employer.

It is my church and I determine the rules and what I want each of my employees to do for me.

When God calls somebody for service

That is what the calling is about.

It’s somewhat like an ad advertising for help.

That is my calling, but I select the ones to send the ad to. That is the calling. Some will respond and others will not. That is their choice.

For those who do respond, there is an interview.

The difference in this interview is that I have already looked into their hearts before I sent them the ad calling them.

Man strayed from God's original job description of his church

I am giving my people a job description of what I want in these end times, what I am looking for in my army.

I did that 2,000 years ago with my church.

I gave them the pattern but they strayed from it and set up an institution that was nothing at all like what I originally planned for my church.

Many of the pagan religious practices of the day were incorporated into my church.

It was no longer my church but a hybrid church consisting of some truths but many lies.

The worship of the many gods of the pagan world didn’t stop. They simply gave them new names and called them Saints.  

God is involved in our lives more than we realize 

I hear your prayers about X (had a stroke) and Y. There are some things that I allow that don’t make sense to mankind.

Most of this is simply part of the process of living in earthly bodies. I did not cause it, but I did not stop it either. Bodies deteriorate after time.

I do have a purpose for everything that I do or do not do. In this case I allowed this to happen in order to bring X closer to me. Yes, he is saved, but he would not qualify as a bride. I don’t want him left behind.

You are sensing that maybe if I heal him, he will come around. I won’t say yes or no at this point.

It would give Y a reason to come to one of the healing services. I do want to use her on a limited basis and that would be a wonderful testimony.

 God sees our hearts and our motivation for doing things 

That is another reason, compassion for other people, especially if they are hurting.

You have a kind heart Rose, one who truly cares. Too many people serving me are just looking out for themselves.

I am looking at the heart when I seek the leaders of my army. You will so very pleased with the people I have chosen.  

God is going to clean up his church

Nobody will be exempt from the cleaning up that needs to be done in my church.

I do have a remnant whose sins are of a minor category, however. It’ll be spit-shine time for them.

The problem is that too much of my body needs a long shower first to wash away a lot of the filth that has entered my church.

The sins go deeper than you can imagine. You don’t hear about them over the media, but they are there, and of a magnitude that arouses my anger.

Many Christian churches are part of the one world religious system

Much of my church has also joined the one world religious system. Many denominations have already sold their souls for the sake of unity.

Just because an institution puts out a Christian sign doesn’t mean that they truly represent my Son.

Satan is uniting his forces and we must also.

There is a price to pay for homosexuality and sexual sins

Some are now allowing homosexuals in the pulpit.

What does my Word say about that gross sin? It is an abomination to me. Satan does and promotes the opposite of what I want.

The family, with a mother and father of opposite sexes is what I instituted. Any other form of marriage is an abomination to me.

Any sex outside of the marriage bed is also a gross sin.

You reap what you sow, and what the world is now reaping are all the venereal diseases, including aids. You reap what you sow.

Unfortunately, there are also innocent victims as a result of these sins. These diseases don’t discriminate. There is a price to pay for sexual immorality.

It’s time my preachers start to talk about these things more. Don’t give them a condom.

Tell them that any sex outside of the marriage vows is an abomination to me.  

God's love  

I am always here for you. No, I won’t leave you. Even if you were not working for me, I wouldn’t leave you.

That is not why I love you. I love you because you are my daughter (or son).

Service and my love are two different categories completely.

My love is not based on your service. My love was there for you, even before you were born.

God wants to hang out with us 

You were created in my image.

Just talk to me, my children, whenever and wherever. Let’s hang out together.

It doesn’t have to be a formal gathering. In fact, I prefer one-on-one with each of my children, but I am not getting that in too many cases. In fact, the number is rather small.

What God is looking for in a bride for his Son

I do have my loyal following who love me dearly. Those are the ones who will be chosen as a bride.

I want you to want to be with us. That Is the kind of relationship that I want you to have in order to be chosen as a bride.

Would you want your child to marry someone who didn’t love him? Of course not.

I see the heart. That is it. I know your every thought.

That is what I will look at when making my decision as to who I will choose as a bride for my Son.

Yes, I do the choosing. I want somebody who will love him and want to be with him.